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Evil Steve
4th September 2009, 03:45 AM
from:http://www.villagevoice.com

Are twinks gradually becoming the world's most endangered species since the kangaroo rat? Sure, their trim forms, asymmetrical hairstyles, and piercing squeals whenever a Lady Gaga song comes on are as adorable as ever, but it seems it's bears that are currently rising with a fiercer bullet in the hierarchy of gay body types. Bears are trumping chicken!

The chubby, hairy gays are way better organized as a community and, as gym fascism wanes a bit, they've ratcheted up their acceptance as available sexual objects (which is good news for my own trajectory, especially if I gain just five more pounds and a hint of taint stubble). They're more in tune with the earthier, less narcissistic era we're apparently entering (though their occasional distaste for effeminacy makes me fear for just the kind of internal LGBT oppression they're supposedly running from). And now, they're heading toward the big screen in BearCity, a fictional feature co-written by entertainment journalist Lawrence Ferber and director Douglas Langway, who are shooting everywhere from the Ramrod to the Eagle.

Ferber's known for his shorts Birthday Time and Cruise Control, while Langway did the lavender action film Raising Heroes, in which a gay kicked some serious mobster ass. Sensing that most bears are far from grizzly, they pitched BearCity to TLA as a series of beefy webisodes about the romantic adventures of a pack of abs-less friends, with the tagline: "Romance can be hairy." TLA felt it seemed more panda-licious as a feature film, so here it comes—a sort of full-length Sex and the City with body fur instead of the other kind.

The cinematic bear-backers submitted to my (bi-)polar line of questioning just the other day:

Me: Hi, guys. Why are bears so sizzling right now? Why is ursa so major?

Doug: The gay community is looking for a more natural look, and, as we become more accepted, it feels like it's more mainstream. We're building a new generation of gay people who have options to look any way they want, whether that be drag queen or muscle bear. I think beards and hair and masculinity are becoming more powerful than sleek and slender and smooth. The bear sensibility allows gays to not have to act as anything but themselves.

Me: Speak for yourself! What's the funniest and/or wildest thing that has happened on the set so far?

Doug: The boom operator let his pants come down during booming, and nobody is sure if it's because he wanted to get some attention or they were loose. They dropped, and he almost got a mauling! The bear scene has found a new pick-up joint, and that's the set of BearCity! Numbers are being exchanged!

Me: Booming, indeed!

Lawrence: Another time, we were shooting inside an apartment in Hell's Kitchen, and a veritable VIP party seemed to be taking place outside. I'm told over a dozen celebrities walked by, including Anderson Cooper and Justin Kirk. I asked the production assistants to chloroform the next celeb to walk by so we could get a "cameo" from them. Drag them upstairs to the camera, and prod them to say, "Bear!" as they wake up, and we'd use that for a dream sequence or something.

Me: I bet Anderson would have done that without prodding.

Lawrence: Other than that, it seems like everyone's cuddling all the time. I can't imagine a film about circuit queens being so full of cuddling between takes. And funny to me is how many chasers are hidden among our cast and crew—even the females!

Me: I guess it brings out the Goldilocks in them. Does the movie have lots of hairy nudity and sex?

Lawrence: Yes! But it's Sex and the City–style, so we have "modesty patches" for the actors—they're flesh-colored patches that you pack your junk into. But that doesn't mean everyone has been using theirs!

Me: Girl, I'm heading to the set right now!

Since other body options are OK, too, I checked out Too Ugly for TV, the monthly drag revue at the Christopher Street bar Pieces, hosted by salty Vodka Stinger and vampy Tallulah DeBayous, both accessorized with stiff hair and stiffer cocktails. Last week, the show was highlighted by a lovely performance of "The Rose," accompanied by an autoharp, an audience game of "Are You Stupider Than a Straight Girl?" (it ended up as a tie), and Tallulah announcing, "It's been a year since I was beaten by a colored person and called 'faggot' by the police. Applause!" Most of the crowd obliged, but avant-garde theater legend Everett Quinton promptly sashayed to the exit. If you can appall him, you're pretty special.

The week's other holes were filled with the Fringe Festival's exercises in oddball entertainment, like How Now, Dow Jones, a game enough revival of an extremely so-so '60s musical. The plot—a false report of a Wall Street boom spurs economic chaos—is extra relevant, as witnessed by the fact that this production has only eight performers and a piano player. But the show is most notable for the occasional dark touches, like a suicidal wacko singing about the girl he impregnated: "You're no lady/You're a dirty trick." So much for modesty patches.

Hotsy-totsy Nazis are revived in the fun-tastic Inglourious Basterds, only to be clubbed with a bat by "the Bear Jew." (I think I've seen him at the Eagle.) The film is part transplanted spaghetti Western, part screwball comedy, and all Tarantino. The Holocaust has never sold this much popcorn! At a Q&A after the movie, Christoph Waltz wouldn't talk about his S.S. colonel character, but he would address his director's, saying that while Quentin is "the wild and crazy enfant terrible" you'd expect, he's also an "immensely well-educated and polite gentleman." He is? How disappointing! Co-star Mélanie Laurent fervently agreed with Waltz; in fact, she didn't even seem that annoyed that her backstory (revealed in a filmed scene with Maggie Cheung) was totally cut, as was a saucy shot in which she pees herself.

Want to crap yourself? An even bigger screening of the film last week was hosted by Hugo Boss, the company that once famously did some very chic uniforms for actual Nazis. Discuss.

The son of a holocaust survivor who built a banking empire, Sir Ivan is the caped rich man (or rich cape man) with a Shrek-like castle in the Hamptons. On Saturday, he bused tons of us there, where the grounds were studded with giant plush rabbits (if not bears) and the pool was surrounded by fiery cauldrons and bubbling with dry ice. It was Castlestock, a kitschy, PR-driven benefit/homage to Woodstock (if it had been organized by Bret Easton Ellis, I guess).

On the side of the castle was a gigantic American flag with a peace sign in the upper left corner and "Sir Ivan" spelled out in big letters on the bottom. At the height of the evening, our patriotic host—who sort of looks like a Smurf on acid—performed a ritual dance to "Kumbaya" while twirling big glow sticks, as his girlfriend pranced around him in angel wings.

My jaw dropping was interrupted by an attendee from a stripper pole company telling me her employer is pissed that Miley Cyrus's recent antics at the Teen Choice Awards were labeled pole dancing. "She didn't do tricks!" the woman exclaimed, appalled. But I bet she turns them.

Elsewhere in the Hamptons, I recently ran into Kelly Klein and the wife of Florida Governor Charlie Crist at a store party. What was it, National Beard Day?

And now I'm back in the city, waiting for National Bear Day


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Do people have any opinions on this?

As a self identified bear cub I am interested to see if there has been a change, i have noticed in the last 2 years alot of people in limerick willing to stand up an say, yes... we are bears... or cubs... I gotta say, its nice to see a change in attitude to body type an shape.

LimkMike
4th September 2009, 12:25 PM
its not just limerick - over the last couple of years the furry glen has moved to its more permanent, mainstay home of PantiBar which, in essence, has made the whole bear culture more acceptable and accessible - people, not just on the scene, are getting tired of the skinny, wrinkle free, feminine gay man stereotype and are appreciating the more regular, masculine, hairy man.

Hopefully it won't reverse altogether though, I would prefer equality in all things, including the scene - we are a mixed group and it should remain thus...

D Bear
4th September 2009, 01:09 PM
I think this shows there are lots of different types of gay people. It's good to see a different kind of gay man in the public eye. Also our gay media enforces a certain type of perfect super person just like the straight media. Artificial and flawless. We're all human and come in different shapes and sizes. Maybe this will help a lot of younger gay guys out there to be happy with who they are.

Merack
4th September 2009, 05:21 PM
I'm delighted to see that things are getting much better and more stable for all of us! Whether we be Twinks, bears or Drag queens etc, it's great to have a place (or a few) to be able to go to most if not every night of the week and not feel like the odd one out!

Sure if you think about it we all start out with being the odd ones out hitting up the straight bars and clubs with our friends untill we have the courage to try our first gay bar. After that i guess in my case it was to go to Dolans or not? And i did and of course loved it! The next step was "Oh am i ready to go try the Dragon or the George since i'm up in Dublin anyways?" And yup i sure did! Hated the George, still do but i love the dragon! Yummy boys hehe

But hey, if Oktobearfest goes well who knows what else will become available down here!

LimkMike
6th September 2009, 02:48 PM
what is Oktobearfest ???

Evil Steve
6th September 2009, 02:59 PM
what is Oktobearfest ???

A work in progress

DaisyD
6th September 2009, 03:43 PM
I'm delighted to see that things are getting much better and more stable for all of us! Whether we be Twinks, bears or Drag queens etc, it's great to have a place (or a few) to be able to go to most if not every night of the week and not feel like the odd one out!

Sure if you think about it we all start out with being the odd ones out hitting up the straight bars and clubs with our friends untill we have the courage to try our first gay bar. After that i guess in my case it was to go to Dolans or not? And i did and of course loved it! The next step was "Oh am i ready to go try the Dragon or the George since i'm up in Dublin anyways?" And yup i sure did! Hated the George, still do but i love the dragon! Yummy boys hehe

But hey, if Oktobearfest goes well who knows what else will become available down here!

WOW this thread is long....so just skimmed through it.

Look at PantiBar, they have a bear night "Furry Glen" downstairs in PantiBar once a month (I THINK) so I agree with Merack, things are getting better.

Limerick Pride
6th September 2009, 03:50 PM
WOW this thread is long....so just skimmed through it.

Look at PantiBar, they have a bear night "Furry Glen" downstairs in PantiBar once a month (I THINK) so I agree with Merack, things are getting better.

There was a few bear pride flags "worn" at last years parade here.

Was great to see, even if most people had no idea what the flag meant :D

DaisyD
6th September 2009, 03:53 PM
There was a few bear pride flags "worn" at last years parade here.

Was great to see, even if most people had no idea what the flag meant :D

I saw the flag, it's great though, because I mean, variety is the spice of life...so it's great when something different comes along (whether people want it or not). :D

DaisyD
6th September 2009, 03:55 PM
p.s. (slightly vering off topic) also, I think to define someone as a twink is derogatory (unless it's in a joking way) because I'm called a twink all the time....and believe me when I say....I AM NOT! lol

Evil Steve
6th September 2009, 04:49 PM
I saw the flag. :D

Thats because you had one of the best views of the entire parade last year hehe.

DaisyD
6th September 2009, 05:31 PM
Thats because you had one of the best views of the entire parade last year hehe.

:p well best views by association!! ;)

Merack
6th September 2009, 05:49 PM
p.s. (slightly vering off topic) also, I think to define someone as a twink is derogatory (unless it's in a joking way) because I'm called a twink all the time....and believe me when I say....I AM NOT! lol

Shut up you silly little twink!

Only kidding :P

But yeah i've heard that word thrown around and it can be very annoying at times. Guess it'd be like turning around and telling a bear he's a fat cunt, but only a bear cuz he's gay? (not my opinion there, just fact)

dykecrewleader
7th September 2009, 03:04 PM
p.s. (slightly vering off topic) also, I think to define someone as a twink is derogatory (unless it's in a joking way) because I'm called a twink all the time....and believe me when I say....I AM NOT! lol

Glad someone finally said that....i was going to but as both of those labels are for men felt it was for someone else to say....i found the whole piece completely derogatory, stereotyping and discriminatory...why would anyone want to debase a section of our community for any reason....whats the problem with people being who they are.....some men are effeminate and it's beautiful!

Why would anyone want to change them, hide them or slag them off....they are an essential part of our community. We all deal with different issues as people, we all deal with different issues as LGBT people, some people find it much harder to hide their non-conformity than others.

D Bear
7th September 2009, 05:13 PM
I often see the word 'twink' in gay media and it pops up in porn a lot. I never took it as a derogatory term, usually as a young gay guy that is thin and looks after himself plus is big into fashion.

I just found the meaning below on a gay dictionary site, didn't know about the negative meanings attached to the word.


twink 3115 up, 433 down
An attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair, often blonde, dresses in club wear even at 10:00 AM, and is not particularly intelligent. A twink is the gay answer to the blonde bimbo cheerleader.

There are two major theories about the origin of this word, both of which probably have elements of truth to them.

a) Twink comes from an acronym T.W.I.N.K. "Teenage, White, Into No Kink."

b) Twink is a shortening of the name for the famous "TWINKIE" snack cake: a tasty, cream-filled snack with no nutritional value. The phallic shape of the "TWINKIE" snack cake should not escape the reader's attention.
I don't like going to that club because it's nothing but a bunch of twinks.

madonnalucia
7th September 2009, 11:48 PM
Might I suggest reading 'Bears on Bears' by Ron Sureshaw. i left my copy in rainbow coffee dock. the chapter on 'Masculinity as drag' is very interesting especially for drag Kings. can't wait for octobearfest should be a laf! x

D Bear
8th September 2009, 05:14 PM
It's on in Colorado too

Grrrrr

http://www.socoequality.org/Laidupletter.jpg

fatandfortysomething
28th September 2009, 05:30 PM
It's on in Colorado too

Grrrrr

http://www.socoequality.org/Laidupletter.jpg

I know some of these guys. The guy back right is called Dan. Sweet Man.
I would recognise that smile anywhere.

Stupid Cupid
28th September 2009, 05:41 PM
Labels, labels, labels. The bane of my life.

First I get called a chicken cos I am new on the scene (even though I'm only new to those people who haven't seen me before!)

Then I get called a twink cos I'm young and clean shaven...

Then I get called a cub because people find out I have body hair.

Wont ANYONE actually call me the name I was christened by?!?:confused:

dibble2008
28th September 2009, 08:19 PM
I have to say I was, and still am in a way, Pretty clueless when it comes to labels particularly on the gay scene. Some are obvious like Bear meaning big and hairy. Cub meaning, small bear. The word twink I first came across trying to look at porn clips online (and getting bombarded with pop-ups. Antivirus sorted that out)

There is still so many codes of behaviour I often hear about and its just so confusing. I read something online one day about hankies and what it means to hang one on your left pocket and right pocket. Apparently its supposed to mean your either a top or a bottom and what you want to do.

Its crazy and all stinks of creepy basements fetishes and S and M.

My feeling on labels is that the scene is so diverse that it is becoming more difficult to actually know who you meet and what the other person wants if anything especially when out in a club or bar. Saying you are a bear or a cub is just a way of saying I prefer hairy masculine men. We all need to identify and as dykecrewleader said these terms can be derogatory but it depends on the context. A lot of this stuff is imported from the states. I mean this is Ireland. We are just beginning to establish a gay Community with equal rights so we tend to look to the states or the uk for info so its inevitable we are going to adopt some of their trends whether thats clubs for bikers, bears, etc

on a funny note I remember a few years ago smoking a fag outside Bublicious and this guy passed me squeezed my shoulder and said oh so buff!!!!

Now I was totally clueless to the scene. I hadn't the faintest idea what he meant and I still don't know where that word came from. lol

D Bear
28th September 2009, 08:32 PM
Your buff and sexy. Dibble ;)

Yeah all these labels are weird and can be daunting for people coming out. Feck they'd need a dictionary. Come to think of it I picked one up in Cork a few years ago. A gay dictionary for new people on the scene, it was weird there was a word for everything.

I think this bear, twink stuff just comes from describing fellas, if a guy is chatting to his friend after a night out he might say 'oh i met this lovely bear last night in the Icon' It clears up a lot, just lingo really.
Plus it's very handy when your looking for naughty videos on the internet :D:D